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Pakistan attack on cricket convoy
Sanwali , Shimla: Mar 3 2009
Made Popular Mar 3 2009
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Several members of the Sri Lankan cricket team have been injured after gunmen fired on a convoy carrying cricketers in Pakistani city of Lahore.
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Sanwali
Shimla, India
This is ridiculous! Its high time for Pakistan to get serious on the issue of terrorism.
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Ankit
New Delhi, India
I am really sorry about Pakistan future. Their politicians, media have been pumping poison in people’s mind for many years. And today this attack on cricketers means no cricket team is going to tour to Pakistan in next 2-3 years.

Terrorism is a two way sword. It is bound to hurt you as well.
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Puneet
Noida, India
UPA is still depending on Pak to bring the perpetrators of 26/11. Pak cannot even protect a visiting sports squad and our leaders still want to depend on pak infrastructure to set things in place. Its time that international community acknowledge the fact that pak is a failed , Islamic terror state and as a sponsor of Islamic terror for decades it is no surprise that it is also a victim of terrorism. India should quickly divide pakistan now so that at least sind and balochistan get saved and there is a buffer on our north western border.
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Zaeem As-salafi
Psh., Pakistan
I would say that this is all India planned tricks, the guys i have seen on media looked like Indians (Dark Skinned). I can’t say who could have done it but it could be Indian Raw or may be the Tamil Tigers could be posibility too.


Attack happened in Mumbai, India were of same nature and technique. We didn’t see such attacks before(in pakistan). It happened few a times in India, Indian and Pakistani Vaga boarder are close in Lahore. The Cricket Match (pakistan vs Sri lanka) were being held in Lahore. So the possibility that Indians terrorist crossing into Pakistan is more.

The question is that what would India get from it? If you analyze it then you get the picture that India plus America both wants to make a picture that Pakistan can’t control so-called Terrorists so they (India and America) could be planning someone to control the SubContinent. And that could be no one else but India. Already America is using drones inside Pakistan and killing innocents.


The last of chance from it is to be done by some local (pakistani) agency. Maybe a seperatist or Alqaida inspired group. As far as Taliban goes, i don’t think they have done it because its the against of nature of Jihaad, Jihaad doesn’t mean that a dozen of people get together and fire on innocent people (whether muslims or non-muslims) and i am sure Taliban would condemn it.

I would say this is only what i interpret from current situation. So far no one has claimed the responsibility for it so only God knows who have done such a brutal thing.


Puneet, the thing about division that you said, surely telling us that what is the inside in your heart. Remember the Division of India on the game of probability is more, than Pakistan. I would say, whether muslims or non-muslims, stop terrorising your own people in India or outside India.
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ARVIND K.PANDEY
PRAYAG, India
@Zaeem

Old wine in a new bottle.Have you people anything better to offer other than shit!
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I knew someone would say that...:D:D:D
did that fool Zaid Hamid say this on TV???
Please provide the link if he has done so...his videos provide better entertainment than crappy bollywood movies...

thnx
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Steven Gary
melbourne, Australia
Zaeem its very easy to dismiss these acts by various conspiracy theories, but its intellectually lazy and disingenuous way, to deflect criticism to believe these illogical paraniod conspiracies.

Maybe you dont like to think the worst of other muslim people, but only the Taliban or similiar group would have any true motive for this.

Dont believe a lot of people write conspiracy theories on the internet or books to use propaganda to hide behind easy solutions; but its not objective analysis its just crazy talk.
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Sanwali
Shimla, India
@ Jitaditya

LOL! This is so true. He’s an ultimate entertainer...
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read this...u would like it...

http://greatbong.net/2009/03/04/in-the-future/
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Hassan
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
I agree with Zaeem

My personal 'experience' with the Maharatha & Gujrati Hindutva:

(1)1946 when I was 6 years old, I lost 46 members of my family, on my father's side, in the Bihari villages/small towns of Salarpur and Karai Persarai, where they were butchered; men, women and children by local Hindus; neighbors and friends. About half a million Muslims were 'cleansed'. They were instigated by Marathi and Gujrati "upper caste" Hindus, the same who assassinated Gandhi two years later! No denunciation. No Police action. Zilch!

(2)1964 I was miraculously and kindly saved from being incinerated alive in any one of the industrial boilers in Tata Steel Mills in Jamshedpur which these Upper Caste Marathis & Gujratis used for the ethnic cleansing of Muslims. I was saved by a Sikh neighbor in Jamshedpur. In 1964 the industrial cities of Bhilai and Rourkela were simultaneously targeted. 50,000 Muslims were eliminated.There was no hue and cry, no denunciation and no police action- as always! (3) Between these two years and ever since another half million Muslims butchered, raped, maimed and their belongings torched to ashes. I have lived in Saudi Arabia since 1965 and my two brothers in Canada. We have done very well in diaspora, much better than what we could ever have done had we not been eliminated in the years since 1965.
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ARVIND K.PANDEY
PRAYAG, India
Hassan

Do you know that this post is related with attack on Sri Lankan cricketers in Pakistan ? Not a single word in your comment is related with attack on cricketers...Shame
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I pity the biased history books you have read...

Any decently educated person knows ’46 riots started after Jinnah declared direct action day....
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Garrett
La, United States
Hope pakistan can sort this terrorism/fundamentalist mess out before some asses like the taliban decide to start a revolution and destroy that quite liberal country up.
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Zaeem As-salafi
Psh., Pakistan
Garrett,

Islaam is all about fundamentalism, meaning to uphold the fundamentals of Islaam, like any other religion or any science or any thing for that matter is even about fundamentalism. Taliban usually talk about upholding fundemantals so i think they are right in their approach. The only point one can argue is upon the Methodology. One should use the methodology the salaf (pious predecessor of Islaam) have used.

Pakistan actually don’t need a liberal or fascist govt but a govt that work for true Islaam and follow usool (principles) of Islaam rather than look mare look for greed of dollars.
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Steven Gary
melbourne, Australia
But Zaeem, do you know the fastest growing religion in the world is Islam! even in western countries Islam is growing while other faiths decline.

In my country Islam is growing and more mosques get built in new suburbs - so i dont understand why the Taliban or other groups feel the need to spread violence to foriegn people, or even western people when their religion is spreading fine by peaceful means - and actually the violence of fundamentalism actually harms Islam to persuade new converts abroad.
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Steven Gary
melbourne, Australia
I cant believe cricketers could be targeted. Its such a low blow, how could they stoop to killing goodwilled sporstmen who are visitors, and completely unpolitical.

Who next can they target, maybe disabled people in wheelchairs or newborn babies in the maternity hospitals. Surely it cant get much lower than this.

Its terrible what happened to you Hassan but surely it means we should try to prevent and speak against religous and ethnic motivated attacks.
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Zaeem As-salafi
Psh., Pakistan
Steven Gary,

I agree with you that Islaam is the world fastest growing religion (al7amdulillah). It is happening because its the truth. Once you try to understand it or learn it with open heart then you have no choice but to accept it, as one should not stay away from truth.

The issue of violence is altogether another issue. Violence many a times come through different level of interpretation. Americans or westerns ideology is pumped in by force, in many places, and people don’t accept it or resist through different means. American invasion on the name of ’democracy’ or 9/11 is another issue of Violence.

But i won’t agree with your statement that violence would harm the cause of Islaam. See, after 9/11 when people were not aware of Islaam in depth, even they started hate on Muslims. Yet many of them started reading or buying Qur’an. (although the world rulers at that time wanted to use 9/11 to attack on muslims dominated areas by hook or crook) and eventually many of them accepting islaam. Islaam is against violence and Jihaad in the name of Allaah is not about mare killing people but it means altogether struggle against oppression (of any kind). Or fighting in the name of Allaah for making the haqq (Islaam) supreme over other things (keeping in mind that its not offensive in nature) and it can also be when some muslims of some area are under brutality of non-muslims then muslims can attack on such non-muslims to save the muslims.



I would also like to tell you that the things you just want to bring under the topic of ”conspiracies” is strange. You think osama bin laden did 9/11 when he denied twice atleast? You think India is really an angel and she want nothing bad and that is why it has tens of embassies / missions in Afghanistan, through which India can destabilize Pakistan by providing ammunition and weapons and money and expensive cars to people who can/are use this against Pakistan. India’s hand in Bangladesh, Pakistan, and all other smaller state is open to everyone. But its hard to accept it. Its not a conspiracy theory.

One more reason could be that whoever did such an act, they knew without any evidence the blame would fall on Taliban, could use their motive (whatever it is) against Pakistan to get two in one. 1. Hard actions on Taliban on upholding Fundamentals of Islaam and 2. Destabilizing Pakistan and Isolating from the World.


The reason why i didn’t blame, the Taliban for what happened in lahore, or kept them in low profile, is only because the motive of Taliban’s fighting had never been to kill randomly. This is against to what true Taliban are all about. And this is against to Qur’an and Sunnah. Whoever does this, is not doing Jihaad rather its a Fitnah (tribulation). Also the people that I saw on TV / Media was typically Indians lookalike (who participated in terrorism yesterday). Talibans don’t wear pants rather they wear the islamic dress of ’shalwar. Moreover, before that, Talibaan had peace agrement with govt in Swaat. Other areas like Bajour agency are also trying to negotiate peace-settlement with the govt of Pakistan. In that secanario, Taliban doing that in Lahore is highly unlikely, its more like causing harm to their cause (of peace and sharia’h).
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Steven Gary
melbourne, Australia
I think if secret service agencies were to consider these clandestine attacks the risk of being exposed would circumvent such plans from ever being considered.

Because secret service agencies get caught out - like Russia poisoning some of their traitor spies, they just arnt always as good as in the movies, i find it almost impossible for the risks of such a set up. The world would turn agains them. Also the west wouldnt be able to hold any territories in some supposed imperialist domination theory.

The only thing the west is good at is economics of trading, and democracy means citizens tire of war quickly so wars must be conducted quickly for objective and then retreat. OK, Jake made a good point to wait for the facts to come out before presuming.

Also many people work at secret service agencies and many leave or betray their former job to tell secrets and publish books to make money, an agency couldnt carry out such constant and complex conspiracies.

The west needs critisism dont get me wrong in areas.....but the thing about conspiracies is that it can really distract people and lead people away from the truth.

Im dissapointed about actions and conduct that the west lost credability with handling weapons of mass destruction and interrogation/torture debacles, they damaged the reputation, and gave rise to all these extraneous conspiracies.

Im going to read Quran and study Buddhist and Hindu religions for informed mind but im firmly convinced of evolution, and the scientific approach, which is empirical and unbiased and appeals to me.

People are very fallible creatures - the fact there are 1 billion catholics and 1 billion muslims and millions of judaism etc etc; means that they cant all be right - they are all convinced its the right religion even to the death! and so it just convinces me how fallible people are.(even myself ...hope im not wrong though.)
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Maya
Doha, Qatar
I pity all blind ignorant morons who think its done by India...some people really need some edification!
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Zaeem As-salafi
Psh., Pakistan
Maya,


I would like you to read my little analysis over what happened in Lahore yesterday. The link is below.


http://sanwali.instablogs.com/entry/pakistan-attack-on-cricket-convoy/#comment-596775
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Incognito
Boca Raton, United States
Typical... blame others, because they can’t own it themselves.
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Jake J
Montgomery, United States
Usually Islamist groups claim credit for attacks. I don’t see anyone claiming credit. Would you claim it for yourself if you know that you didn’t have anything to do with a crime? I have to say that until we know more, stop spouting off.
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Asif Chauhdary
Rawalpindi, Pakistan
I don’t know why the idiots forget that it would not be possible to single out Pakistan. It’s a sub continent issue and India can’t avoid its repercussions. The simple formula we live you live, we go you go more deep. There is fun in showing annoyance. Better for you folks is to let live and exist Pakistan, because that’s in your own interest. If Pakistan is responsible for what all is happening in Pakistan then let it be very very clear that what all is going on in India is purely your head ache. Don’t tell me that RAW is impotent and incapable of doing anything. In fact that is the meanest and the dirtiest clandestine organization of the world.

A friendly advice that please put your own house in order. Find out the reasons for the mysterious killing of Hament Kerkery and the filthiest Malegaon blasts and see what Muthalik says and then if you have some conscience then please make an effort to feel shame.
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No it’s not...we can survive even if you don’t...we suffer because our govt tend to be soft on terror...as of now Pakistan economy is in the abyss...that does not mean we are also in the same soup...

”A friendly advice that please put your own house in order. Find out the reasons for the mysterious killing of Hament Kerkery and the filthiest Malegaon blasts and see what Muthalik says and then if you have some conscience then please make an effort to feel shame.”

1. It is you who need this advice...after losing two wars you never felt the shame and started funding terrorists...
2. Karkare killing is not mysterious, he was killed by Kasav & co. & that has been established irrespective of whatever Zayed Hamid said...
3. Muthalik is an asshole, we r ashamed of him & he is duly reprimanded...but you can never do the same with Talibans banning women’s education...instead your govt made a truce with him...
4. I wish your comments on RAW were true...but they are not...I envy ISI...
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Asif Chauhdary
Rawalpindi, Pakistan
No it’s not...we can survive even if you don’t...we suffer because our govt tend to be soft on terror...as of now Pakistan economy is in the abyss...that does not mean we are also in the same soup... who told you that you are not in the same soup? Please find sometime to evaluate your economy, joblessness and the financial scams. Merely by ducking your neck in the sand you cant deny the fact. There is no reason to get flared up friend. Be practical and look into the reality. Don’t tell me that the Indian govt is naïve or too kind not to handle the terror matters ruthlessly?

[1. It is you who need this advice...after losing two wars you never felt the shame and started funding terrorists.]
The problem with you folks is that you are extremely shameless and traditional and perpetual liars. I am amazed that how come you dare to fabricate the history? We admit that we lost in 1971 because we fought but you don’t have the guts to confess the defeat of 1962 from China, 1948 ‘s debacle when the whole Kashmir was about to be liberated your Nehru ran to UNO and made a disgraceful promise to let Kashmiris choose their future ( I have the clippings of Amritbazar Patrika of that period with me) and 1965’s shameful defeat from Pakistan when your Shastri ran to Moscow.

[2. Karkare killing is not mysterious, he was killed by Kasav & co. & that has been established irrespective of whatever Zayed Hamid said...]
Don’t tell me that you are too naïve? Why you are shy of linking that murder with the activities of Muthalik, Colonel Prohait, Sagvaya & Co?

[3. Muthalik is an asshole, we r ashamed of him & he is duly reprimanded...but you can never do the same with Talibans banning women’s education...instead your govt made a truce with him...]
Good that you admit the genuine generic of Muthalik. Now do the same in case of a thousands of more please. Well, we have no problem with Taliban. If you have then sort it out with them when they will invade you. I am told its happening soon.

[4. I wish your comments on RAW were true...but they are not...I envy ISI...]
May be you are right otherwise RAW would have been the topic of our every second 35 mm project, as ISI is in your case.

Have a good day.
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”you don’t have the guts to confess the defeat of 1962 from China, 1948 ‘s debacle when the whole Kashmir was about to be liberated your Nehru ran to UNO and made a disgraceful promise to let Kashmiris choose their future ( I have the clippings of Amritbazar Patrika of that period with me) and 1965’s shameful defeat from Pakistan when your Shastri ran to Moscow.”

It is an accepted fact tht 1962 was a debacle...no one here tries to hide that...But that was with China not with Pak...if u want to feel good using Chinas credit then best of luck...

& what makes u think u won in 1965?...forgot the ill fitted Patton tanks that the US cheated u with?

”Don’t tell me that you are too naïve? Why you are shy of linking that murder with the activities of Muthalik, Colonel Prohait, Sagvaya & Co?”

There proofs like international call records & others which has established who was there that night...and even your govt had to conduct an inquiry reluctantly...watch some other channel...not the one where Hamid appears...

”Well, we have no problem with Taliban. If you have then sort it out with them when they will invade you. I am told its happening soon.”

This sentence shows your hypocrisy so well that no other argument is required...u complaint about Muthalik and you have no problem with Talibani dickheads...Yes its happening soon...Pakistan is becoming the next Afghanistan soon...
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Ankit
New Delhi, India
”I have the clippings of Amritbazar Patrika of that period with me)”


Can you share those clippings. They would be very interesting to look at.
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